From davids at sdsc.edu  Mon Mar  3 10:58:14 2003
From: davids at sdsc.edu (David Stockwell)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:58:14 -0800
Subject: [seek-ucsd] mailing list for SEEK/UCSD, and meeting in May
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Great,

Would it be a good idea to schedule a meeting soon?

Cheers

Bertram Ludaescher wrote:

>Dear all:
>
>Just to let you know that we have now a mailing list for "SEEK at
>UCSD": 
>	seek-ucsd at ecoinformatics.org
>
>Currently subscribed are:
>
>    davids at sdsc.edu 
>    fountain at sdsc.edu 
>    goguen at cs.ucsd.edu 
>    guilian at cs.ucsd.edu 
>    lsui at cs.ucsd.edu 
>    ludaesch at sdsc.edu 
>    ptooby at sdsc.edu 
>    sekar at sdsc.edu 
>    vianu at cs.ucsd.edu 
>
>For more info on the list, see here:
>    http://www.ecoinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/seek-ucsd
>
>Also note that there will be a SEEK technical meeting (formerly known
>as "developers meeting") during the week May 11-16th.
>
>For planning that meeting we need an estimate on the number of
>participants. Therefore please let me know whether you intend to
>participate.
>
>Bertram
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From ludaesch at sdsc.edu  Mon Mar  3 13:57:34 2003
From: ludaesch at sdsc.edu (Bertram Ludaescher)
Date: Mon,  3 Mar 2003 13:57:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [seek-ucsd] mailing list for SEEK/UCSD, and meeting in May
In-Reply-To: <3E63A5C6.6090306@sdsc.edu>
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	<3E63A5C6.6090306@sdsc.edu>
Message-ID: <15971.53140.857758.75458@multivac.sdsc.edu>

Hi David:

yes, we should meet this week. Right now I am in Colorado, but will be 
back tomorrow night. Meeting on Friday seems to be feasible.

Friday AM everybody?

Bertram

>>>>> "DS" == David Stockwell <davids at sdsc.edu> writes:
DS> 
DS> Great,
DS> Would it be a good idea to schedule a meeting soon?
DS> 
DS> Cheers
DS> 
DS> Bertram Ludaescher wrote:
DS> 
>> Dear all:
>> 
>> Just to let you know that we have now a mailing list for "SEEK at
>> UCSD": 
>> seek-ucsd at ecoinformatics.org
>> 
>> Currently subscribed are:
>> 
>> davids at sdsc.edu 
>> fountain at sdsc.edu 
>> goguen at cs.ucsd.edu 
>> guilian at cs.ucsd.edu 
>> lsui at cs.ucsd.edu 
>> ludaesch at sdsc.edu 
>> ptooby at sdsc.edu 
>> sekar at sdsc.edu 
>> vianu at cs.ucsd.edu 
>> 
>> For more info on the list, see here:
>> http://www.ecoinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/seek-ucsd
>> 
>> Also note that there will be a SEEK technical meeting (formerly known
>> as "developers meeting") during the week May 11-16th.
>> 
>> For planning that meeting we need an estimate on the number of
>> participants. Therefore please let me know whether you intend to
>> participate.
>> 
>> Bertram
>> _______________________________________________
>> seek-ucsd mailing list
>> seek-ucsd at ecoinformatics.org
>> http://www.ecoinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/seek-ucsd
>> 
>> 
DS> 
DS> 
DS> _______________________________________________
DS> seek-ucsd mailing list
DS> seek-ucsd at ecoinformatics.org
DS> http://www.ecoinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/seek-ucsd


From ludaesch at sdsc.edu  Wed Mar  5 13:48:18 2003
From: ludaesch at sdsc.edu (Bertram Ludaescher)
Date: Wed,  5 Mar 2003 13:48:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [seek-ucsd] SEEK meeting this Friday 9am
Message-ID: <15974.27329.607676.132661@multivac.sdsc.edu>

Dear all:

I'd like to invite you to join for our more and more regular (and
hopefully more and more popular ;-), weekly SEEK meeting. Last week we
got a broad overview on EML from Jenny (Jenny: could you please send
me the slides, so I can put them on a meeting-related page).

This week there are the following tentative agenda items -- please let 
me know if you have any suggestions/revisions of this:

-- Joseph wanted to discuss some links between what Microsoft Research
is doing (I assume on Model Management!?) and some of his work

Beyond that, there are several options: 
-- If there is interest, we could look over the current SEEK design
documents, e.g. the Analysis and Modeling System and the Semantic
Mediation System

-- Also: I think it would be interesting to see whether Tony can demo
us some Web services and pipelines he already has in place. Tony: can
a quick demo be arranged?

For the future meetings, I'd like to suggest to round robin and, e.g.,
have the David's and Victor's GSRAs join the meeting and present their 
current work.

This week's meeting will be at 9am on Friday (yes, that's early... ;-)

I'm looking for a room.

For next quarter we should try to find a more convenient time. In
fact, Friday AM will collide with the grad seminar on ontologies I'll
be teaching on Fridays...

Bertram


From ludaesch at sdsc.edu  Thu Mar  6 16:34:35 2003
From: ludaesch at sdsc.edu (Bertram Ludaescher)
Date: Thu,  6 Mar 2003 16:34:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [seek-ucsd] Meeting tomorrow 9:15am
Message-ID: <15975.59605.181882.733055@multivac.sdsc.edu>

Dear all:

We are meeting tomorrow 9:15am in Fran's conference room (SDSC 5th
floor!)

Agenda: 

- update from Joseph on MS model management work
- other misc.

Bertram



From sekar at sdsc.edu  Thu Mar  6 21:38:42 2003
From: sekar at sdsc.edu (Arcot Rajasekar)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:38:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [seek-ucsd] Meeting tomorrow 9:15am
In-Reply-To: <15975.59605.181882.733055@multivac.sdsc.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0303062138180.4073-100000@multivac.sdsc.edu>

wont be there since I am half way across the world.
but have a nice time.

	raja

On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Bertram Ludaescher wrote:

>
> Dear all:
>
> We are meeting tomorrow 9:15am in Fran's conference room (SDSC 5th
> floor!)
>
> Agenda:
>
> - update from Joseph on MS model management work
> - other misc.
>
> Bertram
>
> _______________________________________________
> seek-ucsd mailing list
> seek-ucsd at ecoinformatics.org
> http://www.ecoinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/seek-ucsd
>



From goguen at cs.ucsd.edu  Fri Mar  7 12:22:08 2003
From: goguen at cs.ucsd.edu (Joseph Goguen)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:22:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [seek-ucsd] references
Message-ID: <200303072022.h27KM8825574@awk.ucsd.edu>

This is just to pass one some references that i mentioned in the SEEK
meeting this morning:

Phil Bernstein's "model management" page at Microsoft is at

  http://research.microsoft.com/db/ModelMgt/

They want to translate, integrate, etc. DB schemas, and they use category
theory in their latest work, and even institution theory.  A paper by Alagic
and Bernstein is mentioned on the model management page, but there is no
link, you should instead go to Bernstien's homepage for that link

  http://research.microsoft.com/~philbe/

However, my recent UCSD DB research seminar talk

  http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/users/goguen/projs/onto-intgn.html

goes further than this work, in that it uses institution morphisms to
translate among the languages for describing schema and ontologies.  This
is necessary because many different languages are used, both for schemas
and for ontologies.


Going in a different, more social, direction, there is a nice paper by Paul
Dourish and others which points out some of the practical difficulties in
the actual use of ontologies, at

  ttp://ftp.ics.uci.edu/pub/jpd/1999/papers/group99-macadam.pdf

or

  http://www2.parc.com/csl/projects/placeless/papers/group99-macadam.pdf 

This paper also describes a tool that may solve some of these difficulties.
The book

  "Sorting Things Out" by Geoff Bowker and Leigh Star (MIT 1999)

also discusses real world classification schemes and how they work in
practice in some detail (Dourish got some of his key insights from an
earlier paper by Star).  Substituting "ontology" for "classification" in
these works, some of their major observations are that:

  1. Ontologies must evolve;

  2. Ontologies are not precise - e.g., some things don't fit and others fit
     in multiple ways.

  3. Ontologies are always adapted to local needs, both of groups and of
     individuals.

  4. Translations are needed among the various adaptations.

  5. Sometimes items are deliberately misclassified, in order to make them
     easier to use.

I will be adding all this (and more) to my "SEEK notes" webpage when i get
a chance; it is at

  http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/groups/tatami/seek/


Cheers,

joseph


From ptooby at sdsc.edu  Fri Mar  7 13:24:12 2003
From: ptooby at sdsc.edu (Paul Tooby)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:24:12 -0800
Subject: [seek-ucsd] overviews of David =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stockwell=92s?= work
Message-ID: <3E690DFC.62C2AF67@sdsc.edu>

Joseph and Jenny,

As I mentioned in today?s meeting, I?m sending you URLs for some
non-technical overviews of David Stockwell?s work.

It would be interesting if you could let me know whether, and how, they
are useful for you in your collaboration.

Also, David, if you give a demo of your tools I?d like to attend.

Cheers,
-Paul

Kansas, Mexican, and SDSC Researchers Project Future Shrinking
Biodiversity of Mexican Species
http://www.npaci.edu/online/v6.8/stockwell.html

WhyWhere Web Resource Explains and Predicts Biodiversity Data
http://www.npaci.edu/online/v5.21/whywhere.html



From davids at sdsc.edu  Fri Mar  7 13:59:00 2003
From: davids at sdsc.edu (David Stockwell)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:59:00 -0800
Subject: [seek-ucsd] overviews of David =?windows-1252?Q?Stockwell=92?=
 =?windows-1252?Q?s_work?=
In-Reply-To: <3E690DFC.62C2AF67@sdsc.edu>
References: <3E690DFC.62C2AF67@sdsc.edu>
Message-ID: <3E691624.8080507@sdsc.edu>

Joseph and Jenny are coming around at 9:30 on Monday. 

Cheers

Paul Tooby wrote:

>Joseph and Jenny,
>
>As I mentioned in today?s meeting, I?m sending you URLs for some
>non-technical overviews of David Stockwell?s work.
>
>It would be interesting if you could let me know whether, and how, they
>are useful for you in your collaboration.
>
>Also, David, if you give a demo of your tools I?d like to attend.
>
>Cheers,
>-Paul
>
>Kansas, Mexican, and SDSC Researchers Project Future Shrinking
>Biodiversity of Mexican Species
>http://www.npaci.edu/online/v6.8/stockwell.html
>
>WhyWhere Web Resource Explains and Predicts Biodiversity Data
>http://www.npaci.edu/online/v5.21/whywhere.html
>
>_______________________________________________
>seek-ucsd mailing list
>seek-ucsd at ecoinformatics.org
>http://www.ecoinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/seek-ucsd
>  
>




From guilian at cs.ucsd.edu  Fri Mar  7 16:13:59 2003
From: guilian at cs.ucsd.edu (Jenny Guilian WANG)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 16:13:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [seek-ucsd] overviews of David Stockwell's work
In-Reply-To: <3E690DFC.62C2AF67@sdsc.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0303071609570.24539-100000@gradlab.ucsd.edu>

Great thanks, Paul!

See Prof. Goguen at APM lab around 9:15am and then see David and
possibly Paul too at David's office 9:30pm.

Wish you all have a nice weekend!

Jenny

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Paul Tooby wrote:

> Joseph and Jenny,
>
> As I mentioned in today’s meeting, I’m sending you URLs for some
> non-technical overviews of David Stockwell’s work.
>
> It would be interesting if you could let me know whether, and how, they
> are useful for you in your collaboration.
>
> Also, David, if you give a demo of your tools I’d like to attend.
>
> Cheers,
> -Paul
>
> Kansas, Mexican, and SDSC Researchers Project Future Shrinking
> Biodiversity of Mexican Species
> http://www.npaci.edu/online/v6.8/stockwell.html
>
> WhyWhere Web Resource Explains and Predicts Biodiversity Data
> http://www.npaci.edu/online/v5.21/whywhere.html
>
> _______________________________________________
> seek-ucsd mailing list
> seek-ucsd at ecoinformatics.org
> http://www.ecoinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/seek-ucsd
>



From davids at sdsc.edu  Mon Mar 10 14:02:44 2003
From: davids at sdsc.edu (David Stockwell)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:02:44 -0800
Subject: [seek-ucsd] RDF developers
Message-ID: <3E6D0B84.9060508@sdsc.edu>

Wannabe RDF developers!

Here is a list of links that might be useful for getting started working 
with RDF, or could go in
a summary of resources.

Cheers


http://www.mozilla.org/rdf/back-end-architecture.html - This document 
provides an overview of the RDF ?core? implementation, that is, the 
implementation of the RDF /model/ within Mozilla.

http://www.mozilla.org/rdf/doc/examples.html - This page provides links 
to some examples that demonstrate how to use RDF in Mozilla.

http://209.198.94.130/mzpl/ - Mozillation Project *- *The goal is to 
wrap a prolog engine as a Mozilla XP-COM component to allow client-side 
inferences to be made from RDF statements. The initial implementation 
uses SWI-Prolog as the embedded engine.

http://www.w3.org/RDF/ - A list of links including some resources for 
developers.

http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/doc/cwm.html - Cwm is a general-purpose 
data processor for the semantic web. It is a forward chaining reasoner 
which can be used for querying, checking, transforming and filtering 
information. Its core language is RDF, extended to include rules, and it 
uses RDF/XML or N3 serializations as required.






From guilian at cs.ucsd.edu  Mon Mar 17 10:10:55 2003
From: guilian at cs.ucsd.edu (Jenny Guilian WANG)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:10:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [seek-ucsd] "why information science needs cognitive linguistics" (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0303170958010.24184-101000@gradlab.ucsd.edu>

Hi, all,

Our visiting professor Wener Kuhn from Institute for Geoinformatics,
University of Munster, Germany,  will give a lecture "Why information
science needs cognitive linguistics". His notes are attached and you
can see him
at http://ifgi.uni-muenster.de/kuhn/. You are
welcome to join if you are
interested.

Time: this or next Tuesday (Next week may be better because of NPACI All
Hands Meeting this week).

Location: Prof.Goguen's Lab, APM 3325.

Cheers,

Jenny

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 01:38:02 +0100
From: Werner Kuhn <kuhn at ifgi.uni-muenster.de>
To: 'Joseph Goguen' <goguen at cs.ucsd.edu>, klin at cs.ucsd.edu, guilian at cs.ucsd.edu,
     redfox at ucsd.edu, dharrell at ucsd.edu, raposarose at yahoo.com,
     mmarcus at cs.ucsd.edu, l6zhang at cs.ucsd.edu, dturnbul at cs.ucsd.edu,
     dborgo at ucsd.edu, kuhn at ifgi.uni-muenster.de, barath at ucsd.edu,
     mkabatoff at ucsd.edu, lstar at ucsd.edu, jon at protofunk.org, ryoko at cs.ucsd.edu
Subject: "why information science needs cognitive linguistics"

Dear all,

as some of us decided last week, let's meet (those who are interested) this
and possibly next Tuesday, in the regular slot at 10:30am, to discuss some
ideas from cognitive linguistics and how they relate to computational needs.

I have prepared some discussion notes and attach them. They are work in
progress and need a lot more references (particularly on the computational
side), as well as figures, better explanations etc. But I hope they can
serve as a starting point for our discussion. I apologize for the length -
feel free to pick out whatever suits your interests.

cheers
werner
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From ludaesch at sdsc.edu  Mon Mar 17 13:01:56 2003
From: ludaesch at sdsc.edu (Bertram Ludaescher)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:01:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [seek-ucsd] no general meeting today
Message-ID: <15990.14191.16317.992424@multivac.sdsc.edu>

Dear all:

Due to the NPACI AHM, there will be no general SEEK meeting this week.
Please don't let that curb your excitement or activity.

Any follow-ups of individual SEEK-related meetings, please to this
mailing list.

cheers and until next week

Bertram


From ludaesch at sdsc.edu  Mon Mar 17 20:22:26 2003
From: ludaesch at sdsc.edu (Bertram Ludaescher)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:22:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [seek-ucsd] "why information science needs cognitive linguistics" (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0303170958010.24184-101000@gradlab.ucsd.edu>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0303170958010.24184-101000@gradlab.ucsd.edu>
Message-ID: <15990.40670.450228.866159@multivac.sdsc.edu>


Hi Jenny:

Thanks for letting us know!

Unfortunately, I will give a tutorial tomorrow from 8:30 to noon, so
for me next work will work better..

Bertram

>>>>> "JGW" == Jenny Guilian WANG <guilian at cs.ucsd.edu> writes:
JGW> 
JGW> Hi, all,
JGW> Our visiting professor Wener Kuhn from Institute for Geoinformatics,
JGW> University of Munster, Germany,  will give a lecture "Why information
JGW> science needs cognitive linguistics". His notes are attached and you
JGW> can see him
JGW> at http://ifgi.uni-muenster.de/kuhn/. You are
JGW> welcome to join if you are
JGW> interested.
JGW> 
JGW> Time: this or next Tuesday (Next week may be better because of NPACI All
JGW> Hands Meeting this week).
JGW> 
JGW> Location: Prof.Goguen's Lab, APM 3325.
JGW> 
JGW> Cheers,
JGW> 
JGW> Jenny
JGW> 
JGW> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
JGW> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 01:38:02 +0100
JGW> From: Werner Kuhn <kuhn at ifgi.uni-muenster.de>
JGW> To: 'Joseph Goguen' <goguen at cs.ucsd.edu>, klin at cs.ucsd.edu, guilian at cs.ucsd.edu,
JGW>      redfox at ucsd.edu, dharrell at ucsd.edu, raposarose at yahoo.com,
JGW>      mmarcus at cs.ucsd.edu, l6zhang at cs.ucsd.edu, dturnbul at cs.ucsd.edu,
JGW>      dborgo at ucsd.edu, kuhn at ifgi.uni-muenster.de, barath at ucsd.edu,
JGW>      mkabatoff at ucsd.edu, lstar at ucsd.edu, jon at protofunk.org, ryoko at cs.ucsd.edu
JGW> Subject: "why information science needs cognitive linguistics"
JGW> 
JGW> Dear all,
JGW> 
JGW> as some of us decided last week, let's meet (those who are interested) this
JGW> and possibly next Tuesday, in the regular slot at 10:30am, to discuss some
JGW> ideas from cognitive linguistics and how they relate to computational needs.
JGW> 
JGW> I have prepared some discussion notes and attach them. They are work in
JGW> progress and need a lot more references (particularly on the computational
JGW> side), as well as figures, better explanations etc. But I hope they can
JGW> serve as a starting point for our discussion. I apologize for the length -
JGW> feel free to pick out whatever suits your interests.
JGW> 
JGW> cheers
JGW> werner


From guilian at cs.ucsd.edu  Tue Mar 18 09:42:16 2003
From: guilian at cs.ucsd.edu (Jenny Guilian WANG)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:42:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [seek-ucsd] "why information science needs cognitive linguistics"
 (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <15990.40670.450228.866159@multivac.sdsc.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0303180939090.29500-100000@gradlab.ucsd.edu>

Hi, Werner,

Please see the forwarded email from Bertram.

Jenny

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Bertram Ludaescher wrote:

>
>
> Hi Jenny:
>
> Thanks for letting us know!
>
> Unfortunately, I will give a tutorial tomorrow from 8:30 to noon, so
> for me next work will work better..
>
> Bertram
>
> >>>>> "JGW" == Jenny Guilian WANG <guilian at cs.ucsd.edu> writes:
> JGW>
> JGW> Hi, all,
> JGW> Our visiting professor Wener Kuhn from Institute for Geoinformatics,
> JGW> University of Munster, Germany,  will give a lecture "Why information
> JGW> science needs cognitive linguistics". His notes are attached and you
> JGW> can see him
> JGW> at http://ifgi.uni-muenster.de/kuhn/. You are
> JGW> welcome to join if you are
> JGW> interested.
> JGW>
> JGW> Time: this or next Tuesday (Next week may be better because of NPACI All
> JGW> Hands Meeting this week).
> JGW>
> JGW> Location: Prof.Goguen's Lab, APM 3325.
> JGW>
> JGW> Cheers,
> JGW>
> JGW> Jenny
> JGW>
> JGW> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> JGW> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 01:38:02 +0100
> JGW> From: Werner Kuhn <kuhn at ifgi.uni-muenster.de>
> JGW> To: 'Joseph Goguen' <goguen at cs.ucsd.edu>, klin at cs.ucsd.edu, guilian at cs.ucsd.edu,
> JGW>      redfox at ucsd.edu, dharrell at ucsd.edu, raposarose at yahoo.com,
> JGW>      mmarcus at cs.ucsd.edu, l6zhang at cs.ucsd.edu, dturnbul at cs.ucsd.edu,
> JGW>      dborgo at ucsd.edu, kuhn at ifgi.uni-muenster.de, barath at ucsd.edu,
> JGW>      mkabatoff at ucsd.edu, lstar at ucsd.edu, jon at protofunk.org, ryoko at cs.ucsd.edu
> JGW> Subject: "why information science needs cognitive linguistics"
> JGW>
> JGW> Dear all,
> JGW>
> JGW> as some of us decided last week, let's meet (those who are interested) this
> JGW> and possibly next Tuesday, in the regular slot at 10:30am, to discuss some
> JGW> ideas from cognitive linguistics and how they relate to computational needs.
> JGW>
> JGW> I have prepared some discussion notes and attach them. They are work in
> JGW> progress and need a lot more references (particularly on the computational
> JGW> side), as well as figures, better explanations etc. But I hope they can
> JGW> serve as a starting point for our discussion. I apologize for the length -
> JGW> feel free to pick out whatever suits your interests.
> JGW>
> JGW> cheers
> JGW> werner
>



From ludaesch at sdsc.edu  Tue Mar 25 08:24:18 2003
From: ludaesch at sdsc.edu (Bertram Ludaescher)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:24:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [seek-ucsd] meeting this week
Message-ID: <200303251624.h2PGOIV13846@multivac>

Dear all:

I'd like to suggest to resume our SEEK meetings this week, preferrably 
on Friday morning.

Please send me suggestions for topics.

Here are some thoughts from the top of my head, but these are just suggestions:

-- update from David and/or Jenny (if any) on joint activity
-- web services workflow demo by Tony and/or his group members 
-- resuming the discussion on type checking/inference for analytical
pipelines 
-- update on the May technical meeting

Bertram

PS since Friday is a UCSD holiday, we are all available right? ;-)
well, we can also meet on Thursday morning


From goguen at cs.ucsd.edu  Tue Mar 25 08:49:56 2003
From: goguen at cs.ucsd.edu (Joseph Goguen)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:49:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [seek-ucsd] meeting this week
In-Reply-To: <200303251624.h2PGOIV13846@multivac> (message from Bertram
	Ludaescher on Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:24:18 -0800 (PST))
References: <200303251624.h2PGOIV13846@multivac>
Message-ID: <200303251649.h2PGnuj04492@awk.ucsd.edu>

though available as far as the time goes, there is a location problem, as
i am still in vienna on friday.....

ryoko & i did a lecture-performance on cognitive and social aspects of
music for the electronic music composers of the university of vienna
this morning; it went over surprisingly well, at least, her part of it,
which generated a lot of applause.....

i also gave a lecture to the database group here, headed by georg gottlob;
it was a small audience but i think they liked it.

cheers,

joseph

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   Dear all:

   I'd like to suggest to resume our SEEK meetings this week, preferrably 
   on Friday morning.

   Please send me suggestions for topics.

   Here are some thoughts from the top of my head, but these are just suggestions:

   -- update from David and/or Jenny (if any) on joint activity
   -- web services workflow demo by Tony and/or his group members 
   -- resuming the discussion on type checking/inference for analytical
   pipelines 
   -- update on the May technical meeting

   Bertram

   PS since Friday is a UCSD holiday, we are all available right? ;-)
   well, we can also meet on Thursday morning
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From davids at sdsc.edu  Tue Mar 25 09:22:07 2003
From: davids at sdsc.edu (David Stockwell)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:22:07 -0800
Subject: [seek-ucsd] meeting this week
In-Reply-To: <200303251624.h2PGOIV13846@multivac>
References: <200303251624.h2PGOIV13846@multivac>
Message-ID: <3E80903F.9090904@sdsc.edu>

I will be in Princeton, but Yang may be able to come.

Cheers

Bertram Ludaescher wrote:

>Dear all:
>
>I'd like to suggest to resume our SEEK meetings this week, preferrably 
>on Friday morning.
>
>Please send me suggestions for topics.
>
>Here are some thoughts from the top of my head, but these are just suggestions:
>
>-- update from David and/or Jenny (if any) on joint activity
>-- web services workflow demo by Tony and/or his group members 
>-- resuming the discussion on type checking/inference for analytical
>pipelines 
>-- update on the May technical meeting
>
>Bertram
>
>PS since Friday is a UCSD holiday, we are all available right? ;-)
>well, we can also meet on Thursday morning
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>seek-ucsd mailing list
>seek-ucsd at ecoinformatics.org
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>  
>




From guilian at cs.ucsd.edu  Tue Mar 25 12:18:26 2003
From: guilian at cs.ucsd.edu (Jenny Guilian WANG)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:18:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [seek-ucsd] meeting this week
In-Reply-To: <200303251624.h2PGOIV13846@multivac>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0303251206001.4566-100000@gradlab.ucsd.edu>

Friday morning is fine with me. One more topic could be showing more
details
of your
scientific
workflow demo? I want to see whether its interface and framework can be
borrowed somehow for ecological
data integration and analysis issues, for example, David's species
prediction.

Cheers,

Jenny

On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Bertram Ludaescher wrote:

>
> Dear all:
>
> I'd like to suggest to resume our SEEK meetings this week, preferrably
> on Friday morning.
>
> Please send me suggestions for topics.
>
> Here are some thoughts from the top of my head, but these are just suggestions:
>
> -- update from David and/or Jenny (if any) on joint activity
> -- web services workflow demo by Tony and/or his group members
> -- resuming the discussion on type checking/inference for analytical
> pipelines
> -- update on the May technical meeting
>
> Bertram
>
> PS since Friday is a UCSD holiday, we are all available right? ;-)
> well, we can also meet on Thursday morning
> _______________________________________________
> seek-ucsd mailing list
> seek-ucsd at ecoinformatics.org
> http://www.ecoinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/seek-ucsd
>



From ludaesch at sdsc.edu  Wed Mar 26 00:29:25 2003
From: ludaesch at sdsc.edu (Bertram Ludaescher)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:29:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [seek-ucsd] meeting this week
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0303251206001.4566-100000@gradlab.ucsd.edu>
References: <200303251624.h2PGOIV13846@multivac>
	<Pine.GSO.4.33.0303251206001.4566-100000@gradlab.ucsd.edu>
Message-ID: <16001.25782.572853.55659@multivac.sdsc.edu>

ok, we could do that. On the other hand, since many folks seem to be
not here, maybe we should postpone and just have individual meetings.

I'm considering to catch up with Victor if he's available...

Bertram


>>>>> "JGW" == Jenny Guilian WANG <guilian at cs.ucsd.edu> writes:
JGW> 
JGW> Friday morning is fine with me. One more topic could be showing more
JGW> details
JGW> of your
JGW> scientific
JGW> workflow demo? I want to see whether its interface and framework can be
JGW> borrowed somehow for ecological
JGW> data integration and analysis issues, for example, David's species
JGW> prediction.
JGW> 
JGW> Cheers,
JGW> 
JGW> Jenny
JGW> 
JGW> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Bertram Ludaescher wrote:
JGW> 
>> 
>> Dear all:
>> 
>> I'd like to suggest to resume our SEEK meetings this week, preferrably
>> on Friday morning.
>> 
>> Please send me suggestions for topics.
>> 
>> Here are some thoughts from the top of my head, but these are just suggestions:
>> 
>> -- update from David and/or Jenny (if any) on joint activity
>> -- web services workflow demo by Tony and/or his group members
>> -- resuming the discussion on type checking/inference for analytical
>> pipelines
>> -- update on the May technical meeting
>> 
>> Bertram
>> 
>> PS since Friday is a UCSD holiday, we are all available right? ;-)
>> well, we can also meet on Thursday morning
>> _______________________________________________
>> seek-ucsd mailing list
>> seek-ucsd at ecoinformatics.org
>> http://www.ecoinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/seek-ucsd
>>